*Method Man was the inaugural guest on rapper Fat Joe’s new weekly interview series on STARZ titled “Fat Joe Talks. The pair discussed their shared history of coming up in the hip-hop world during the 1990s and their battles with depression.
“It never really goes away,” Method Man said on the Oct. 4th episode. “You have, like I said, I have bouts with it and things.”
During the conversation, the Wu-Tang Clan member also opened up about his turbulent childhood and stressed the importance of checking in on others who might be in need.
Method Man revealed he’s writing a memoir and reflected on his NAACP Image Award-winning role as Davis MacLean following the final chapter of the acclaimed “Power Book II: Ghost” series.
Below are highlights from the conversation, which you can watch via the YouTube clip below,
Method Man on working with the Notorious B.I.G.:
“Well, first off, nobody knew I did the song [with Biggie], and I actually met Big outside The Muse. We chatted for a little bit and shit and he said, ‘You know, I f*cks with you. This, that and the third, you know. I want to do a song with you.’ My man Dan Smalls, he’s like ‘Check out this song here, ‘Party and Bullshit’ by my man Big.’ I listened to it and I was like, this n**** raw. And the night I met him, he performed it. As he’s performing on stage you forget that there’s a part in there when they start fighting and it looked real for a second. And then he said, ‘Yo chill, chill, chill. Can’t we just all –’ The crowd goes f*cking bananas and I just stood, you know how you just stand in the back and you, you hard as f*ck but you don’t want to force this smile, but it’s like…” Fat Joe steps in to add, ‘At that time we had to hold it all in. We couldn’t even show our personalities.’ Method jumps in, “At all! It was just this [serious face] and I’m like this and when I saw it I was like, ‘That was live right there. That sh*t was live.’ I seen him outside and, you know, he ran it by me and next thing I know, we did the song.”
Method Man opens up about his turbulent childhood and his upcoming memoir:
“Yes, I do [have a story to tell]. Big time. I can’t wait to tell it. Actually, I am working on a book. And the funny thing that happened was, this girl that I had the meeting with, the writer, I grew up with her sister in Long Island. She know my f*cking life. Well that part of it. And there were so many things that she didn’t realize until I told her. Like even the family I was staying with, she thought that was my family. It wasn’t. I was actually homeless, and they took me in kind of sh*t. You know what I mean? I was in them street, streets. When I tell you I was out in the street, I was out in the street. We talking five, six years old, coming home after dark, police had to come get me kind of shit. Yeah, used to drive my mother crazy, brother. And then, even in Staten Island when I was young..” Fat Joe steps in to ask, “Did you ever pay it back? Like I take care of my mother and father and I pay every bill. I do everything and every time I look at my mother, I still got guilt for stuff that I did as a youth. You know, getting in so much trouble, hustling this, that. I feel like I could never pay my mother back.” Method Man responds, “It’s different for me. I be wondering if my parents got guilt, but the book will explain all of that.” Fat Joe jumps in again to ask, “We got a title for the book?” Method Man answers, “Not yet. Not yet. It might be, ‘Bring The Pain.’ Because there’s a lot of that.”
Method Man opens up about his struggles with depression:
“The point I’m trying to make is every now and then when you get a thought like, “Damn, I wonder what this person’s doing,” act on it. Call them, see how they doing or find some way to get in contact with them. It never hurts. You have no idea how much that could mean to them. Because, you know, I go through these bouts with certain shit.” Fat Joe interjects, “Do you still go through that?” Method responds, “Yeah. It never really goes away. It never really goes away. You have, like I said, I have bouts with it and things. And Dave saw that, and he just sent me a text message ,a beautiful text message… and it spoke to me, big time. And all I could put was, ‘All of this,’ with a heart emoji. I don’t even get heart emojis son but yeah.” Joe jumps in to say, “It felt good to know that somebody’s thinking about your well being or your health. You know, I went through depression after my sister died, [Big] Pun died, my grandfather died all at the same time.” Method Man interjects, “I can only imagine.” Fat Joe continues, “I was, like for two years straight, going to a therapist and it could be a sunny day but that sh*t look dark outside…I was sleeping in the bathtub with no water running looking up at the ceiling. It took two years of beating myself up. And so I tell people, you could be in a gang, you could be in anything, somebody trying to kill you? Just move to another state. But when you’re fighting your own brain, it’s with you all the time. You could go to the islands. You can be in the Fiji Islands with the bluest water, but you’re still fight that demon.”
Method Man talks about his legacy in Staten Island and his stoner persona:
“When I first saw it [the mural dedicated to each Wu-Tang member], I was blown away. Then my first thought, because I’m from here, was like why somebody trying to deface that sh*t? But nobody violated it. That’s respect right there.” Joe adds, “We running up on your piece, right? When I see this piece, I see the smoke coming out of your mouth.” Method Man interjects, “Smacked!” Fat Joe continues, “How many blunts has Method Man smoked in the history of mankind? What do you think? Method Man responds, “Oh man, I wish we could – that’s like asking how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop!” Fat Joe exclaims, “Yo Meth! A million? You smoked a million blunts?” Method Man answers, “It’s embarrassing at this point.” Fat Joe continues, “No you have smoked one million blunts.” Method Man responds, “Nah. I would say I am close to it. I wouldn’t say a million yet, but I’m close. I would say I’m in the hundreds of thousands.”
Fat Joe’s new STARZ interview series airs every Friday at midnight on the STARZ app and debuts on STARZ linear at 10:00 PM ET/PT in the U.S.
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